Church Warning Update

The country is still reeling from the recent Supreme Court “marriage” rulings.  I am not happy to have been right in my predictions that we would lose at least one, but probably both cases, and that Justice Kennedy would write the majority opinion to reflect his personal goal to legitimize homosexuality in America.  He did so in the DOMA case United States. v. Windsor.  The Proposition 8 case, Hollingsworth v Perry was remanded back to the lower court where there was technically another opportunity to defend it in court.

However, in my newsletter I opined that Prop 8 was as good as dead and told people to watch for dirty tricks and sabotage to circumvent due process.  Sure enough, the Ninth Circuit Appeals court announced the following day they would move immediately to allow the resumption of “gay marriages.  Prop 8 attorney Andy Pugno was outraged, writing

“Suspiciously, the Ninth Circuit’s announcement late Friday ordering same-sex marriages came as a surprise, without any warning or notice to Proposition 8’s official proponents. However, the same-sex couple plaintiffs in the case, their media teams, San Francisco City Hall, L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and the California Attorney General all happened to be in position to perform same-sex marriages just minutes after the Ninth Circuit’s “unexpected” announcement. Coincidence?”

His emergency petition to the Supreme Court was instantly rejected by Justice Kennedy (whom Don Feder has aptly named “Ronald Reagan’s most tragic mistake”).  So California has now officially fallen.

But this sort of lawlessness is simply par for the course whenever the sacred cow of homosexuality is at issue.  As Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel noted in the Winsor decision:  “The decision is as far removed from the Constitution and the Court’s prior precedent as the east is from the west. Led by Justice Kennedy, the majority of the Justices have cut the tether that once connected them to the Constitution. This decision does not even pretend to be governed by the Constitution or Court precedent.”  To me this is just one more indicator that the rising black fog of homofascism is an end-times spiritual phenomenon.

In a previous post I had suggested that Justice Ginsberg had been (on behalf of the liberal block) telegraphing a message to the leftist elite when she made public comments criticizing Roe v Wade for getting too far ahead of the public on the abortion issue and creating a “militant” backlash (the pro-life movement).  I thought her comments meant they would vote to uphold DOMA.  In fact, they instead voted to strike down DOMA, but NOT to recognize a constitutional right to homosexual marriage nationally, which the “gays” had asked and hoped for.  Now we know what she meant.

So, while the Winsor decision clearly lays the groundwork for that next step, it seems the court will not take that step until the liberals believe the pubic will acquiesce to it peacefully.  That bodes well for the pro-family movement IF we can reverse the current “pro-gay” trend.  But that’s a very big IF.  See my article, “The Key to Pro-Family Victory if We Really Want It”

Meanwhile, the homosexual propaganda machinery has been running at full capacity to create the impression in the public mind that they have won the culture war and all further resistance is futile.  “Put down your weapons and run away,” is their message to pro-family activists.  And that message is being bolstered by their allies in the lower courts, the media and the political realm who are taking quick action to keep their momentum rolling.

A federal judge just ordered the State of Michigan to give financial benefits to homosexual partners.  And it was just announced that Senator John McCain’s political guru Steve Schmidt has been recruited by the ACLU to promote “gay marriage in the GOP, see “ACLU launches campaign to win GOP support for gay marriage” at (which the Republican establishment obviously want to happen).  Goodbye Whigs.  Hello Tea Party.

But resistance is NOT futile and we must never surrender to evil.  As Winston Churchill said

“Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is
no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

I believe we may be still at the cusp of the third and fourth stages, but more probably are at the fourth and final stage, Churchill’s last stand.

I personally will never stop fighting to defend Biblical truth as long as I have breath.  And I will fight to win every battle the Lord puts in my path, even when I perceive that winning that particular battle is impossible.  The outcome of the “war,” however is pre-determined by the Lord, and we know from His Word that ultimate victory will be by His hand at the very end after very dark days.

Today I am republishing my article A Warning to the Church in America because I want every pro-family activist in America to read it and circulate it to the pastor and to Christian friends.  It is posted below, and at my blog

Before you read that, let me suggest that our most effective tactic to resist the homosexual juggernaut is to amend all existing Sexual Orientation Regulations, wherever we may find them, with a First Amendment Supremacy Clause.

“Under no circumstance shall sexual orientation regulations supersede the First Amendment rights of individuals, churches and religious organizations to freedom of speech and freedom of religion.  For the purpose of this amendment religious organizations are those whose policies or culture are substantially influenced by religious values including but not limited to Christian bookstores, adoption agencies, hospitals, non-profit and for- profit companies, social organizations and Christian student clubs on college campuses.”

These First Amendment campaigns shift the focus of the debate to a contest between the First Amendment and Sexual Orientation Regulations, a battle we can win.  I stand ready to assist you in any such effort.

I have just returned from a nine-stop speaking tour in Nebraska, which is now on-board with the First Amendment strategy, along with Oklahoma and Missouri.  I am looking for more invitations to conservative states where we can put these in place as a roadblock to the homosexualization of those states and perhaps build some momentum in the other direction.

Let me also introduce the idea here that states with a state DOMA should use those statutes as a legal foundation and justification to create mandatory age-appropriate curricula for every grade level to educate the children about the meaning and importance of authentic marriage and how to prepare themselves for healthy and happy marriage in their own future.  This will at the very least strengthen if not actually immunize many children from the influence of sexual anarchy and “gay” propaganda.

That’s all for now…


Dr. Scott Lively

Ps.  Once again, I request that you forward this to your lists.  My own is unfortunately still under 1500 addresses.  If you have received this by forwarding, please contact me to add you to the list.


A Warning to the Church in America


By  Dr. Scott Lively, President, Defend the Family International, June 13, 2013

You may have heard of me.  I am the pastor being sued in U.S. Federal Court for “Crimes Against Humanity” for preaching against homosexuality in Uganda.  But I am really a “Canary in the Coal Mine,” with a warning for every Bible-believing Christian in our land, especially pastors and ministry leaders.

The American church is about to come under spiritual and cultural warfare the likes of which we have never seen and which most are not prepared for.  The attacks will come from every corner of the secular world to challenge, condemn and punish us for our beliefs about homosexuality.  These attacks will split denominations, congregations and even Christian families to a degree and with an intensity that will shock even those who have experienced the first ripples of “gay” conflict in the church over the past few decades.  Large numbers of self-identified Christians will begin embracing so-called “Gay Theology,” and some will actually join the attacks against the remnant who stand firm on the truth.  The pressure to give in to escape the psychological and sometimes physical persecution of the Christian “homophobes” will be so great that I believe a majority of church-goers will succumb, and a great many pastors will choose to “change with the times,” so as not to lose “their” church.

This collapse of the Christian infrastructure of America is, in my opinion, already in progress and  irreversible because it is part of God‘s judgment.  The “end-times” revival which many, including myself, expect and eagerly await will not stop this collapse, but will in fact hasten it by strengthening the remnant in their obedience to Christ while hardening the world (and fallen Christians) against us.  The crisis will be so pervasive that no-one will be spared the choice of embracing or rejecting Biblical truth on this topic.  The whole purpose of this trial is to test the strength of believers to endure greater troubles ahead.

We shouldn’t be surprised that God is using this issue as our test.  A careful examination of His Word shows that open homosexuality in the Bible is symbolic of extreme rebellion against God leading to judgment.  Thus, unique in all of scripture, Sodom and Gomorrah are destroyed by fire and brimstone as the examplar of God’s wrath (2 Peter 2:6, Jude 1:7, Genesis 19:1-12), male on male sodomy is listed as the most heinous sin on the short list of sins which caused the land to “vomit out” the Canaanites from the territory promised to Abraham (Leviticus 18:1-30, esp. 22),  and both male and female homosexuality are together identified as the examplar of the depraved or “reprobate” mind that defines the age of apostasy leading to Christ‘s return (Romans 1:18-32, 2 Timothy 3:1-5).

Noah’s Flood was preceded by the “marrying and giving in marriage” (Matt 24:37-40) of people whose thoughts were “only evil continually” (Genesis 6:5), evidence which the ancient Hebrew scholars interpreted as “gay marriage,” the final insult to God which unleashed the deluge.  And in the final book of the Bible, just prior to the return of Christ to “judge and make war” against His enemies (Rev 19:11ff), Jerusalem under the Antichrist is “mystically called Sodom and Egypt,” signifying its essential association (I believe) with homosexuality and Islam respectively (Revelation 11:3-8).

Even 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, the “ex-gay” passage that proves that healed and recovered homosexuals were a part of the church from its earliest days, warns that unrepentant homosexuals “will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.”  There is no room, even when we emphasize compassion for homosexual sufferers, to condone homosexual relationships or worse, to claim that homosexuality is blessed by God as a normal, intended variant of human sexuality.

My life’s work has been to stand against the (increasingly successful) assault of the homosexual movement on Biblical values in our society and around the world.  My nearly 25 years of full time, front lines ministry on this battlefield has given me special insights and understanding of this issue.  My refusal to be silenced by a long series of increasingly more dishonest and aggressive attacks on my work and reputation has familiarized me both with persecution and with the tactical “playbook” of the “gay” movement.  I am thus issuing my warning to the church not so much as a prophesy (though it is confirmed in my spirit), but as the natural conclusion of deductive reasoning by a front-lines analyst with a unique vantage-point.  In support of that conclusion, I offer the following observations.


First, on June 28, 1969 the goal of the American homosexual movement shifted from tolerance (the right to be left alone) to control (the complete restructuring of society in its own image, with “gays“ or their surrogates in all seats of power).  Its tactics shifted from civil dialogue to implacable militancy.  That was the date of the Stonewall Riot in New York City, today celebrated annually as “Gay Pride Day.” Logically, this movement cannot achieve its goal without replacing the Biblical social ethic of marriage-based heterosexual monogamy and the natural family with its own philosophy of unlimited “sexual freedom” (which is in reality moral anarchy).  In short, the true and necessary goal of the “gay” movement is the defeat of Christianity.

Second, in the space of just forty years homosexual militants have defeated every secular institution in their path in the United States.  The first to fall was the American Psychiatric Association in 1973, when “gay” activists, using Brownshirt tactics of disruption and intimidation, forced the APA to remove homosexuality from its list of mental disorders in its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual IV.  The most recent and final secular institution to fall was the Boy Scouts of America in 2013 when the BSA leadership voted to allow openly self-declared homosexual boys into the organization.  The next-to-last entity to fall was the U. S. military.  In both cases, the first news following the capitulation was of uniformed members of each organization marching triumphantly in “Gay Pride” parades.

Third, the “gays” have always intended to attack the church in the final stage of their conquest of our culture.  As early as 1987 they openly admitted this plan in an article called The Overhauling of Straight America, which later became the basis for the book After the Ball, which has ever since been their primary strategic blueprint.  They wrote:

When conservative churches condemn gays…we can use talk to muddy the moral waters. This means publicizing support for gays by more moderate churches, raising theological objections of our own about conservative interpretations of biblical teachings, and exposing hatred and inconsistency. Second, we can undermine the moral authority of homophobic churches by portraying them as antiquated backwaters, badly out of step with the times and with the latest findings of psychology. Against the mighty pull of institutional Religion one must set the mightier draw of Science & Public Opinion (the shield and sword of that accursed “secular humanism”). Such an unholy alliance has worked well against churches before, on such topics as divorce and abortion. …. At a later stage…it will be time to get tough with remaining opponents. To be blunt, they must be vilified.  (Guide Magazine, November 1987)

Frankly, even at this late stage of the game, much of the church seems to be still asleep or in denial about the state of our culture.  Even many conservative Christian leaders who are awake to the seriousness of the crisis are only dimly aware that the culture war at its foundation is and has always been a winner-take-all contest between Christians and homosexual activists.  Now that the last secular barriers to the “gay” agenda have been crushed, all of their weapons and all of their warriors will be focused on the last remaining obstacle to their power, the Christian church.

What comes next is a full-on homosexual blitzkrieg against “homophobia” and “hatred” in the church, and a concurrent culture-wide advocacy of “gay theology.”  Gone, of course, will be all concern for the “separation of church and state” as the secular powers work hand-in-hand with the “gays” to shame and “correct” the Bible-believing church, using Scripture that has been deviously twisted to fit their goals.  The only defense will be Biblical literacy backed unshakable faith.  To be blunt, we will be all be vilified and only the strong of faith will endure.

To be sure, one’s view of homosexuality is not necessarily a salvation issue, but one’s ability to cling to Christ through persecution may well be.  Will a person too spiritually weak or cowardly to defend Biblical truth on such a clear and fundamental teaching be strong enough to resist the Mark of the Beast?  During a time of testing such as we are entering, the Prophet Jeremiah put it this way: “If you have run with footmen and they have tired you out, Then how can you compete with horses? If you fall down in a land of peace, How will you do in the thicket of the Jordan?

It might not be noticeable now, but their campaign has been launched and will steadily increase in breadth, depth and persuasiveness.  Remnant, be prepared, and share this warning.

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