My Letters to SPLC — 2007-2008

Following is my posting of Feb 20 2009 at Defend the Family.  I am reposting it here today because of the attack on the Family Research Council.  You will note that I did my very best to reason with this organization that I now recognize as evil, and warned them in the Nov 1 2007 letter that their irresponsible accusations of “hate” would lead to violence.  The introduction discusses a project that I have been compiling data for since 2009 but have never implemented.  Perhaps it is time for that.

Help Expose the Southern Poverty Law Center

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has published its annual list of “hate groups” and for the second year in a row, it includes my organization, Abiding Truth Ministries. I know this because I recently received a call from a reporter at The Californian newspaper Riverside County California asking for my comment on this designation. I spent nearly an hour on the phone attempting to defend our reputation as a civilized and reasonable advocate of the pro-family agenda for society, rooted in the Bible. I am not the violent hatemonger they portray me as, which you may confirm for yourself at my website www.defendthefamily.com. Nearly everything I have written in my career as a Christian activist is published there.

I am well used to fending off the accusation of hate, since that tactical rhetorical weapon is leveled by the “gay” movement and its allies against everyone, however mild-mannered or benign, who dares to assert the self-evident truth that homosexuality is wrong and harmful. However, to be labeled as such by the SPLC is a whole different story. This is an organization which purports to be the national authority on hate groups, a claim which carries substantial credibility due to its past high-profile campaigns against racist groups (which I supported). In fact, the SPLC conducts training seminars on hate groups for law enforcement agencies.

After being placed on the hate list the first time, I tried diligently over the course of a year to persuade the SPLC to remove us on the grounds that we really don�t belong there. My letters to the SPLC are posted in our resource section at http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/archives.php?PHPSESSID=f39909a337a62f112a6b458fb6e217a1 for your review (and included below). Finally, I sent a letter to SPLC staffer Mark Potok asking specifically why we had been placed on the list and what we would need to do to be removed. I never received an answer to my letter (nor to my prior phone call), but when the reporter posed that same question to him he replied that we were added because I am the co-author of The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party and I would need to repudiate the claims of the book to be removed from the list.

Obviously, I have no intention of distancing myself from my accurate, factual documentation of the homosexual roots of the Nazi regime. As I stated to the reporter, I stand ready (as I have since the publication of our first edition in 1995) to debate the facts and implications of The Pink Swastika anywhere and with any competent opponent. A portion of The Pink Swastika is published online at http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/showproducts.php and I encourage everyone to read it for themselves.

However, having now exhausted diplomatic options for resolving this problem I am left with the choice of giving up or taking more aggressive measures. Frankly, if the attacks against me were limited to the SPLC”s own website, I would probably just drop the issue, even though one polemic by SPLC writer Casey Sanchez is by far the most vicious piece of libel I have suffered in 20 years of being smeared by “gay” apologists. I”m not really concerned with the opinions of the loonies at SPLC and their followers, and I am ever mindful of (and grateful for) the Biblical promises related to suffering for being a faithful Christian. But the SPLC”s articles on me and ATM are now being cited as documentation of my bad character all over the web, and growing more and more outrageous in their claims, including the absolutely false and beyond-the-pale accusation that I defend murder of homosexuals.

I have decided that I will not, by my silence, embolden the SPLC to widen its attack on the pro-family movement beyond the several groups already on their “hate” list (most of which as undeserving as ATM of this designation).

How then to respond? One avenue would be litigation, since I am an attorney and I believe some of what they have published on their site is legally actionable. But I believe the more effective response would be to give them a taste of their own medicine and expose the SPLC as the blindly partisan, anti-Christian hate group which it has become. Certainly, SPLC leaders have every right to their bigoted views, but they do not have the right, at the same time, to claim the status of independent, neutral arbiters of the homosexual issue.

The SPLC and its personnel are, in most cases, more deserving of public scrutiny and disapproval than their targets. Their overarching theme seems to be the demonization of the “Christian Right” as a fundraising strategy (see my November 2007 letter to the SPLC below for an analysis of how Christians are treated on their website). It appears to me that the SPLC is, more than anything else, a fundraising machine, and that it has run out of racist threats with which to scare its donor base. Therefore it has turned to the most convenient alternative target, Christians, because the “gays” have already spent years and vast resources publicly painting us as “haters” comparable to racists.

However, the SPLC has not yet learned that Christians are not the easy targets that racists were. No reasonable person endorses racism, and few Americans are willing to defend racists when they are attacked. But Christians are a different story. We”re not racists. We”re not like racists in our actions or beliefs (despite what the “gays” say). And we have a large, powerful and growing army of social activists at work in the so-called culture war. These Kingdom-minded believers are already angry with the “hate-mongering” smear campaigns that the pro-“gay” media has been waging against us for years, and that the SPLC has only recently begun to mimic.

What”s lacking is someone to turn the attention of the pro-family movement as a whole on the SPLC as a worthy target of its scrutiny and activism. This prior sentence is exactly the sort of statement that the SPLC would like to twist in it”s own fear-mongering fundraising letters, so let me be absolutely clear what I mean about “targeting” the SPLC:

I mean examining every aspect of their organizational life and history — which we already know is filled with hypocrisy, double-standards, misrepresentations of good people, and other bad stuff — and exposing the facts to the light of public scrutiny through pro-family and neutral media. No dirty tricks. No violence. No threats. No unethical conduct. Just good old-fashioned truth-telling.

As a victim of the SPLC hate machine I am willing to be that person, but I cannot succeed in this without help. I will need money (one cannot take on a fundraising “Goliath” without at least a few “smooth stones” worth of financial support). Donate at

http://www.defendthefamily.com/help/donate.php

I will assume that all donations made over the next few days are for this project.

I will also need help gathering information. As of today, consider Abiding Truth Ministries a repository and clearinghouse for all research and documentation related to the Southern Poverty Law Center. If you are one of those whose skill and interest lean toward the gift of research and investigation consider this a request for legally-obtained data about the SPLC. If you are one of those whose gift is the dissemination of information, whether as a private party or part of a media organization, please introduce yourself to me at sdllaw@gmail.com.

Phase I is about gathering information and processing it into useable forms.

Phase II will involve disseminating the information.

Stay tuned. If you are not already on my e-mail list, but received this because of forwarding, please contact me directly to be added so you don”t miss our future updates.

Your Fellow Servant in Christ,

Dr. Scott Lively
President, Abiding Truth Ministries

The following are my letters to the SPLC:
The first was actually in my capacity as co-founder of Watchmen on the Walls, but applies equally to ATM.

Letter #1

LAW OFFICE OF SCOTT DOUGLAS LIVELY
PO BOX 891023, TEMECULA, CA 92589

November 1, 2007

Attorney Morris Dees
Southern Poverty Law Center
400 Washington Avenue
Montgomery, AL 36104

Dear Mr. Dees,

I have long held a favorable opinion of your organization for its work against racism and violent extremist groups. We differ on issues related to sexual morality because my opinions conform to the long-standing conclusions of Christianity, based on the Bible. Nevertheless, I respect your right to disagree, and to advocate your opinions, as you do so eloquently and so zealously.

When a respected organization such as yours ventures into the business of evaluating the behavior and motives of others (called “judging” when Christians do it), the organization bears a special responsibility to be accurate and fair-minded. An erroneous representation of a person or a group as “hateful” can destroy a reputation and cause great harm. Indeed, given the current extreme Left/Right polarization of our society, identifying someone as “hateful,” in the manner in which your organization uses the term, exposes that person to potential violence at the hands of people who perceive themselves, or other members of their group, as potential victims of his or her “hate.” Such people, relying on your characterization, may feel justified in striking preemptively against the “hater.”

I believe this is similar to the logic that you use in suggesting that public disapproval of homosexuality leads to violence against homosexuals. However, Christian disapproval, if it is legitimately rooted in the teachings of Jesus, forbids violence and in fact requires Christians to “love their enemies.” This is a doctrine I cite continually, though I have never seen the corollary on the Left.

I was more than a little dismayed, therefore, when I found myself the subject of your recent reporting in association with Watchmen on the Walls, for which I am a consultant and founding member. The following was published by a leading local newspaper in the Seattle media market prior to our recent WOW conference.

[Watchmen on the Walls] is building a reputation for being an “unbelievably virulent anti-gay organization,” said Mark Potok, a spokesman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, based in Montgomery, Ala. The center is known for promoting tolerance, tracking hate groups and fighting legal battles against white supremacists, including the Klan and Aryan Nations.

This led me to a search of your own website, where I found myself mentioned in several articles, primarily in connection with my book The Pink Swastika. I also found an outrageously irresponsible and inflammatory article by Casey Sanchez linking Watchmen on the Walls to the murder of Satender Singh in Sacramento, without the least shred of evidence to support the association except that the alleged perpetrator is Russian, as is the founder of Watchmen on the Walls. I believe you once called that type of rhetoric racism.

Another article by Sanchez, posted on October 19th, 2007, accused me of stating that “gays orchestrated the Holocaust.” I refer you to your own website where previously your writer Bob Moser quoted my Orthodox Jewish co-author and I accurately as stating “we cannot say that homosexuals caused the Holocaust.” I respectfully request a retraction of that falsehood.

I”d also like the opportunity to correspond with whomever in your organization reviewed my book and concluded it”s assertions were baseless. I”d be interested to know how your researcher evaluated the specific facts I cited from my nearly 200 mainstream and “gay” sources. Perhaps this person, or anyone you care to designate, would also consent to debate these assertions publicly with Kevin Abrams and me.

The same Sanchez article also featured an excerpt from my recent speech in Novosibirsk, Siberia in which several local men cheered during my recounting of how the death of Singh was used by the Sacramento media to tarnish all Russians. These men did not represent the spirit of the conference, nor the beliefs and goals of the Watchmen on the Walls. The meeting was open to the public and in Russia there are, unfortunately, some people who do hate homosexuals.

Most disappointing, however, especially given your stated mission to promote tolerance, was that your article failed to mention that I spent most of the remainder of my speech articulating the genuine Christian approach to homosexuality as one of compassion for self-identified homosexual people even while we oppose their lifestyle and political goals. I believe that my speech helped change the attitude of those men who had previously held only hatred for homosexuals, and allowed them to see homosexuals as people who need and deserve the love of Jesus, just as much as they do. This is, after all, what my religion teaches: love, not hate. The article therefore casts me in a false light and damages your claim to be an arbiter of civil rights conflicts.

This brings me to the issue of “hate.” I found it very surprising that on your website, which is dominated by the theme of hatred, I couldn”t find a definition of the term, as you use it, anywhere. This is especially odd, since I know you are a law center, and clear definition of terms is indispensable in the practice of law. If I am mistaken, please advise me where I can find this information on your site, because I do not want make the same mistake toward you that you have made toward me.

I will not impugn your motives, but I know that others on the Left refuse to define hatred because that would establish a standard by which they, and the organizations that share their views, could be measured. For example, if one uses the dictionary.com definition “intense dislike; extreme aversion or hostility,” then much of the content of your own website, as it relates to groups on your list could reasonably to be considered “hate.” I don”t have a problem with that. Frankly, I hate what most of those groups do also. I hate racism, extremism that leads to violence, and irrational bigotry as much as I disapprove of homosexuality. But I don”t hate racists, bigots or homosexuals: they all need and deserve the love of Jesus just as much as I do.

I urge you to take leadership on this question and clearly set forth the definitions and criteria that you believe we should all use to judge these matters. Frankly, I don”t know how you can offer to teach law enforcement about “hate” groups without such objective standards. Perhaps they are included in your teaching materials not accessible on the website. If so, please extend me the courtesy of sending me a copy of the relevant passages or telling me where I can find them.

Your website has one additional deficiency in that it does not include any references whatsoever to hate-based attacks on Christians. I searched “attacks against Christians,” “against Christians,” “Christian victim,” “victim was a Christian,” “church-burnings,” and a number of other intuitive phrases. I didn”t find a single item in which a Christian was identified as a victims of hate or discrimination. However, these search terms pulled up numerous items in which hate-groups and individual perpetrators were identified as Christian. Surely you are not ignorant of the many hate-motivated incidents in recent years in which Christians were the targets?

Once again, if I”m wrong, and this information is published on your website, please direct me to it. Assuming I”m right, however, this begs the question “why is it omitted?”.

I decline to draw any conclusions here, and give you the benefit of the doubt that the concerns I”ve raised are simple errors and/or oversights on the part of your staff. However, I would hope that, as a leading, indeed legendary, figure in the field of civil rights, you would take immediate action to correct these mistakes.

This is not a demand letter and I have no desire or intention to file suit against you. I am relying on your reputation as a man of integrity to set these matters straight simply because its the right thing to do.

I agree with you that there are some hate-filled people who operate under the name “Christian.” This does nearly as much damage to the community of genuine Christians as it does to the victims of these misguided men and women. I urge you reach out to leaders of my community to find common ground against racism and violence, so that you do not make the mistake, even unintentionally, of painting all Bible-believing Christians as hateful bigots. We will probably not agree on matters of sexual morality, but surely there is room for civil dialogue even on these issues. I stand ready to cooperate with you personally toward this goal if you are willing.

Finally, I ask you to take a second look at Watchmen on the Walls. You will find that it is as racially and culturally diverse as any organization in America, and does not advocate or condone violence. Yes, it is strongly against homosexuality, but that alone shouldn”t qualify anyone as “hateful.” I am sending for your perusal a copy of the “Watchmen on the Walls Statement of Beliefs and Goals,” and a copy of WOW”s first public document, the “Riga Declaration on Religious Freedom, Family Values and Human Rights.” I am also sending a copy of The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party, and my recent essay “Is Hating “Haters” Hateful.” I ask you to give each of these a fair reading before commenting upon them.

Hoping to reach a place of mutual respect, I am

Most Sincerely,
Scott Douglas Lively, J.D., Th.D.

Letter #2

LAW OFFICE OF SCOTT DOUGLAS LIVELY
PO BOX 2373, SPRINGFIELD, MA 01101

October 1, 2008
Attorney J. Richard Cohen
Southern Poverty Law Center
400 Washington Avenue
Montgomery, AL 36104

Dear Mr. Cohen,

I am an attorney and President of Abiding Truth Ministries, based in Temecula, California. On November 1, 2007 I sent a letter to your organization on behalf of the pro-family organization Watchmen on the Walls, respectfully asking you to reconsider your decision to list that organization as a hate group. You did not respond to the substantive points of my argument except to correct a factual error on your website regarding my book The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party. I thank you for the correction. However, you maintained your posture relative to the Watchmen group, and, to my great disappointment, added my own organization, Abiding Truth Ministries, to your list of “hate” groups in your 2008 report.

In my November 1st letter, addressed to Mr. Dees, I wrote:

I found it very surprising that on your website, which is dominated by the theme of hatred, I couldn”t find a definition of the term, as you use it, anywhere. This is especially odd, since I know you are a law center, and clear definition of terms is indispensable in the practice of law. If I am mistaken, please advise me where I can find this information on your site, because I do not want make the same mistake toward you that you have made toward me.

I will not impugn your motives, but I know that others on the Left refuse to define hatred because that would establish a standard by which they, and the organizations that share their views, could be measured. For example, if one uses the dictionary.com definition “intense dislike; extreme aversion or hostility,” then much of the content of your own website, as it relates to groups on your list could reasonably to be considered “hate.” I don”t have a problem with that. Frankly, I hate what most of those groups do also. I hate racism, extremism that leads to violence, and irrational bigotry as much as I disapprove of homosexuality. But I don”t hate racists, bigots or homosexuals: they all need and deserve the love of Jesus just as much as I do.

I urge you to take leadership on this question and clearly set forth the definitions and criteria that you believe we should all use to judge these matters. Frankly, I don”t know how you can offer to teach law enforcement about “hate” groups without such objective standards. Perhaps they are included in your teaching materials not accessible on the website. If so, please extend me the courtesy of sending me a copy of the relevant passages or telling me where I can find them.

Your website has one additional deficiency in that it does not include any references whatsoever to hate-based attacks on Christians. I searched “attacks against Christians,” “against Christians,” “Christian victim,” “victim was a Christian,” “church-burnings,” and a number of other intuitive phrases. I didn”t find a single item in which a Christian was identified as a victims of hate or discrimination. However, these search terms pulled up numerous items in which hate-groups and individual perpetrators were identified as Christian. Surely you are not ignorant of the many hate-motivated incidents in recent years in which Christians were the targets?

Once again, if I”m wrong, and this information is published on your website, please direct me to it. Assuming I”m right, however, this begs the question “why is it omitted?”.

I decline to draw any conclusions here, and give you the benefit of the doubt that the concerns I”ve raised are simple errors and/or oversights on the part of your staff. However, I would hope that, as a leading, indeed legendary, figure in the field of civil rights, you would take immediate action to correct these mistakes.

As I stated above, your organization did not respond to these issues. Neither, in the eleven months since I notified you, have you done anything to address them on your website. I must therefore conclude that the glaring anti-Christian bias in your materials accurately reflects your perspective and ideology, and that the lack of clear, objective criteria for determining who is a “hater” is intentional. This, of course, by any reasonable standard disqualifies you as an moral arbiter on issues, such as homosexuality, where Christian beliefs or values are in conflict with those of other groups.
Irrespective of the above, my organization does not meet even the vague basis by which you categorize “anti-gay” hate groups: “organizations that go beyond mere disagreement with homosexuality by subjecting gays and lesbians to campaigns of personal vilification.” However, even if you can stretch these term to include us, the same must certainly be true of virtually every “gay rights” group in the public sphere as they address Bible-believing Christians, negating any justification for singling out my organization.
Therefore, this letter is to ask you to immediately remove Abiding Truth Ministries from your list of “hate” groups.
Please note that this is not an open letter. I am not holding you up to public scorn or scrutiny on the issues herein. My only goal is to protect my organization from being falsely characterized as a hate group. If you immediately remove ATM from your list I will consider the matter closed and will not seek to cause you any embarrassment by publicizing your action outside of reporting it to my subscribers. You have my word.
However, if you choose not to accede to my request within a reasonable time, I will take the liberty of making the contents of this letter public, and may take further action as appropriate.
Frankly, I submit that you would provide a much more valuable service to our society if you were to promote a more balanced and objective approach to the homosexual issue that accommodates instead of condemns the views of Bible-believing Christians. I would be pleased to discuss such an objective with you at your convenience.

Respectfully,
Dr. Scott Lively
President, Abiding Truth Ministries

Letter #3

LAW OFFICE OF SCOTT DOUGLAS LIVELY
PO BOX 2373, SPRINGFIELD, MA 01101

October 18, 2008
Mr. Mark Potok
Southern Poverty Law Center
400 Washington Avenue
Montgomery, AL 36104

Dear Mr. Potok,

Thank you for your reply to my letter of October 1.

With inflammatory “hate crime” rhetoric and legislation advancing across the nation, and your organization being perceived by many to be the leading “independent” source of information about so-called anti-“gay” hate groups, your refusal to remove my organization from your list of these groups is exposing my organization and me personally to increasing harm.

So far, to my knowledge, we have suffered only damage to our reputations. I want to be removed from this list before we suffer something more serious.

Please tell me why you listed us in the first place and what specifically we must do to be removed from the list.

Respectfully,
Dr. Scott Lively
President, Abiding Truth Ministries

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In Defense of David Barton, Part 2: Fact Checking Warren Throckmorton

This is a follow-up to my article defending David Barton from a smear campaign that I believe was orchestrated by Dr. Warren Throckmorton of Grove City College to punish Barton for taking a strong biblical stand against the homosexual political agenda. This is my opinion, based on my own experience with Throckmorton and my observations of how he wages his private war against pro-family activists. I personally don’t read his blog, but even a cursory scan of his postings will reveal to anyone who doubts me that this man is obsessed with discrediting Christians who advocate the biblical view that homosexuality is wrong and that homosexuals can change

As the outset, I want to thank Dr. Throckmorton for jogging my memory about something I had forgotten. He sent an email to a group of my friends asking them to forward the following message to me:

“My friend J.D. Wyneken is upset about how Scott Lively has misrepresented him. This has now been picked up by David Barton and tweeted to his followers and to who knows where else. This post written today does not begin to reflect J.D. feelings about how he has been used by Lively and Barton…Yesterday, I talked to J.D. Wyneken who disputed Lively’s account. Lively may have called but according to Wyneken, they never spoke on the phone. Lively emailed and, according to Wyneken, wanted to drive a wedge between us. Wyneken never said he was uncomfortable with my request to look at Lively’s book, but rather was glad to provide a reaction to it. Wyneken planned no additional posts since his interest in the matter was complete, not because he had second thoughts about what he said about The Pink Swastika. There was and is no problem with Wyneken. That was a figment of Lively’s imagination…..I kindly ask you Mr. Lively to retract that section and publicly apologize for your misrepresentation of the situation.”

Frankly, I had completely forgotten that I had exchanged emails with Mr. Wyneken (toward whom I hold no animosity) and recollected our exchange as a telephone conversation. My comment was thus just a rough paraphrase of what I recalled he said. However, once I received the above note I went back into my email archives and sure enough, there was the exact quote, in pertinent part, from the man himself:

“the debates over your book and ideas are ones that are primarily between you and Warren and those who support your various sides. I myself am much more interested in other political and scholarly debates and do not wish to be caught between you and Warren on this or any other related issue. I made this clear to Warren last year when he asked me to comment on whether or not The Pink Swastika reached the standards of professional history. Warren has thus far respected my wishes, and I ask respectfully that you do the same.”

So there it is, a perfectly reasonable position for him to take and at the same time fully consistent with my characterization of it in paraphrase. So I will not retract that section of my prior article nor apologize for writing it. I will however apologize for dragging him into this since we had evidently agreed (at my request) to keep that exchange private, a fact which I honestly had forgotten until I reviewed the email. I do sincerely apologize for that error of memory, Mr. Wyneken, but I can’t un-ring that bell.

Providentially, however (and I use that term in its original meaning), we now have a piece of evidence that supports my theory that Mr. Throckmorton is behind the anti-Barton campaign. The phrase “when he asked me to comment on whether or not The Pink Swastika reached the standards of professional history” precisely frames the tactic that would be necessary for someone to line up a group of Christian academics to review Barton’s Jefferson Lies. He got Mr. Wyneken to attack my book as a means of attempting to discredit me. Wouldn’t he be expected do the same in trying to discredit Barton? And on a larger scale given the greater stature of the target?

In light of that it’s also curious that the World Magazine article which seems to have marked the turning point in Christian media treating Mr. Barton as fair game for criticism was penned by yet another person with “.edu” at the end of his email address — this time a guy from Baylor. Was there complicity? Manipulation? I don’t know. This is just a conspiracy theory.

If it’s true, I’m hoping one of these academics who didn’t realize there was a hidden “gay” agenda behind the request to, perhaps, “comment on whether Jefferson Lies reached the standards of professional history” will confess that they’d been had. It would take some real courage and humility to do that, but it might happen. (The door to my e-mail inbox is always open — sdllaw@gmail.com.)

Until then, we’re stuck with just the facts. So why don’t we just do a quick fact check on Warren Throckmorton to see if he‘s right in using his position at a Christian college to attack people who oppose homosexuality.

Here’s what Warren had to say on the issue to Michael Signorile, one of the all-time most influential “gay” activists, on the latter’s radio show in 2007:

WARREN THROCKMORTON: The aim of Sexual Identity Therapy is a satisfied life – a client who believes that they have come to an integration of their conflicts, and we’re, by the way, only talking about people who are in conflict.

MIKE SIGNORILE: So you think it is normal, natural and healthy for people who come out and accept that being homosexual — accept being gay — and completely have no issues with their religious faith — you believe — would you describe the words as [strong emphasis by Signorile] “normal, natural and healthy” – that that is fine?

THROCKMORTON: Yes. Yes, I have been very clear about that in my public statements, that the efforts to demonize people who accept their homosexuality and come out as gay have been futile. The research–[Signorile cuts him off]

Warren has thus stated as fact that homosexuality is “normal, natural and healthy” and this belief obviously informs all of his anti-Christian political activism.

But the Bible says:

“A man shall not lie with a man, it is an abomination.” Leviticus 18:22, and

“ Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, and

“Furthermore, since they [male and female homosexuals] did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.” Romans 1:28-32

Let’s also check to see if Warren’s view is considered a fact by his employer, Grove City College. Here’s a statement from their website under the title, “About GCC“:

“Grove City College remains true to the vision of its founders. Rejecting relativism and secularism, it fosters intellectual, moral, spiritual, and social development consistent with a commitment to Christian truth, morals, and freedom. Rather than political, ideological, or philosophical agendas, objective truth continues as the goal of liberal learning.”

Oops, wrong again.

So here’s my challenge to you Warren Throckmorton. Since you work for a Christian college which promises incoming students and their parents they will receive an education grounded in Christian truth,

And since you are in large part the cause of David Barton’s rejection as an author by Thomas Nelson publishers for alleged “factual inaccuracies” of a far less significant type that those relative to the Holy Scriptures.

And mostly because you have so flagrantly and arrogantly contradicted the plain truth of God,

I challenge you to immediately repent of your heresy and apologize to all you have wronged by your treachery against the faith or resign your position.

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In Defense of David Barton

 

For years I have been a great fan of David Barton, founder of Wallbuilders. His bold ministry of simply quoting primary and ancient secondary sources to counter the decades-long effort by secular-humanists to de-Christianize American history has inspired millions. One of my very pleasant memories was participating in a small chapel service in which David gave the message, and then got Bill Bright of Campus Crusade for Christ on the speaker phone to greet us from his hospital bed, not long before he passed on to glory. And I have used Barton’s excellent resources for years, valuing them highly because they are so heavily documented and emphasize the historical record itself, not some “high brow” analysis by professional historians (that entire class, even most of the Christians, having been trained in secular humanist universities and steeped in political-correctness).

It was with concern, therefore, that I read an August 10th article in Publishers Weekly that Thomas Nelson publishers had cancelled its contract with Mr. Barton and withdrawn his book Jefferson Lies from the marketplace for “factual errors.” I admit I have not read the book, but I’ve since reviewed much of what the critics have written about it and also his rebuttal (published before the TN decision). I also know the character of the man and the high quality of his past work. Most importantly I know the character of the “gay” activist movement, and specifically one of it’s chief agents inside the Christian camp, Dr. Warren Throckmorton of Grove City College.

Throckmorton, the chief critic of Jefferson Lies, is heavily quoted in the Christian media in the attacks on Barton, and has written his own book to rebut it called Getting Jefferson Right: Fact Checking Claims about Our Third President.

Why, one might wonder, is a psychology professor so heavily invested in refuting David Barton’s claims about Thomas Jefferson’s Christianity? And why, among all the great many people who have published history books whose claims are strongly disputed by others, has David Barton become the subject of a campaign not just to challenge his conclusions but to humiliate him? And, since these sorts of defamatory efforts tend not to be spontaneous developments but the work of people with an agenda, who’s agenda is it in this case?

I have my own little conspiracy theory and it centers on David Barton’s emergence as a vocal opponent of the “gay rights” movement and Throckmorton‘s self-appointed role as the saboteur of such people. If you “Google” “David Barton” and “Homosexuality” you will find that Mr. Barton has become a subject of intense vilification in the “gay” blogosphere. You will also find triumphal gloating over Barton’s drubbing by the entire cadre of homosexual bloggers who specialize in attacking Christians, including the “Joseph Goebbels” of this group, Wayne Besen of the ironically-titled Truth Wins Out blog. Tellingly, Besen ran his story on the controversy under the headline “Dr. Warren Throckmorton’s ’Takedown’ of History Fraud David Barton.”

For those who still believe that Warren Throckmorton is on the side of the Christians in the culture war, just do a search of his name on the websites of the nastiest of these anti-Christ blogs such as Box Turtle Bulletin, Truth Wins Out and Joe My God. You will find that Throckmorton is a hero to these people and apparently a willing collaborator with some of them.

In my own search yesterday I also found a twitter message by Throckmorton, which was “re-tweeted” by Jay Richards (the man who organized the review of Jefferson Lies by 10 Christian academics). It said in essence “Now Barton can’t claim his only critics are liberals” or something to that effect (unfortunately it didn‘t come up for the same search terms today or I‘d quote it directly). Does that and several other re-tweets of each others messages prove collusion against Barton by these two men? No.

Frankly, I don’t know Richards and I must assume without evidence to the contrary that he is an honorable man. I also know of and respect several others of the academics who have criticized Barton. I don’t think they are part of any conspiracy either, though I am very disappointed at all of the “piling on“ now that Mr. Barton has been thrown under the bus by some in the Christian media. (I suspect there are at least a few of the ten who regret their participation in this project — though not necessarily their criticism of the book — now that they have seen how it has been leveraged to try to destroy the career of a good Christian man).

However, I do know Throckmorton and how he operates. I know because he has used a similar smear campaign against me. My first encounter with the man was when he went public to falsely accuse me of promoting forced therapy for homosexuals in Uganda without even trying to check with me whether it was true. When I confronted him on it, he didn’t apologize but justified himself. After a few exchanges with the man I realized he was a sold-out homosexualist and told him so. Ever since he has campaigned vigorously against me in the same way he has attacked Barton. He even corralled a newly-arrived faculty member at Grove City to write a criticism of my book The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party. I called the man who wrote the critique, intending to challenge him to a debate. He told me that he had been very uncomfortable with Throckmorton’s request and didn’t intend to repeat the collaboration.

Throckmorton also took it upon himself to contact pro-family organizations which had cooperated with me in the past to “investigate” whether they intended to continue their relationship with me in light of the new “facts.” He brags about this on his blog. It was extremely aggressive and manipulative conduct, especially by a supposed fellow Christian.

I think he has used the same tactics here against Barton. This is classic “gay” pressure-politics: create a controversy or magnify the importance of an existing one, then go after the allies of the target who are most sensitive to public relations concerns until one or more of them stampedes (in this case Thomas Nelson), then trumpet the news that people are distancing themselves from the target as a way to further damage him. Alarmingly, this is suddenly now happening inside the Christian camp and believers, unfamiliar with such tactics, are falling prey to them. The Marxists who invented the strategy called such people “useful idiots,” not because they are unintelligent, but because they, through someone else’s clever duplicity, allow themselves to be unwitting tools of that person’s hidden agenda.

Now I’m not saying that David Barton is infallible or that his critics are wrong on every point. Anyone working in the field of history is vulnerable to this sort of attack. By definition one deals with hundreds or thousands of individual facts and sources, each fact subject to challenge by any number of people with differing opinions as to its implications and significance. By their very nature, there isn’t a history book on the library shelves that couldn’t be “discredited” (in the eyes of the public at least) by opponents with the will and resources to do it.

And Mr. Barton is particularly vulnerable because (like myself) being an activist and not an academic he uses a polemical style to focus primarily on the counter-evidence to what anti-Christian revisionists have previously claimed. Indeed, Barton’s format in Jefferson Lies is to cite one of the lies and then write a chapter refuting it. It is thus highly unfair to gather a panel of academics to sit in judgment on his book because first, it is only one side of a two-sided argument that should be taken together, and second, academics are trained against using a polemical style in the approach to history and are thus (as a class, though there are exceptions) professionally biased against it.

Unfortunately, the smear campaign against David Barton took on a life of its own and the damage to his ministry will undoubtedly be lasting, though I believe he will eventually be vindicated among fair-minded people.

To put all of this in a proper perspective, lets assume for the sake of argument that every criticism of every critic is accurate and not merely a question of different takes on the underlying facts and context (as I believe). Lets even go further and allow solely for argument’s sake that David Barton exaggerated some of the facts. Is the attack on the man in proportion to his perceived fault? For the sake of preventing further damage to our already fractured Christian unity in this dominant humanist culture couldn’t this have been handled more prudently? Or is David Barton’s entire career being destroyed and all of his years of working tirelessly to advance the cause of Christ in American society being retroactively invalidated on purpose by a puppet-master with a hidden motive?

Who exactly benefits from this? If you listen hard you can hear their gleeful cackles as they pat Warren Throckmorton on the back.

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OKC Note and New Essay “Classic Liberals Discover Homo-Fascism”

Just got back from Oklahoma City where I was the main speaker for opening night of the Reclaiming America for Christ conference.  http://reclaimamericaforchrist.org/

I also performed my 20 minute edited version of Jonathan Edward’s 1741 sermon Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God on Friday evening, the final night.  I gave a talk at the High Noon Club, a conservative politically-oriented lunch group that meets at a gun club, and on Sunday morning preached at Olivet Baptist Church in the inner-city.  Spent some time with pro-family hero Sally Kern, a state rep there, talking strategy and tactics.  It was a good trip. 

While in OKC the Chick fil A controversy broke out and I penned this essay which was published on World Net Daily.  I submitted it also to Salon magazine, but of course they did not print it. 

Classic Liberals Discover Homo-Fascism

The brouhaha over Chick Fil A CEO Dan Cathy’s defense of authentic marriage has caused a fender-bender on the political left. Classic free speech liberalism has apparently met for the first time the new generation of homo-fascists. Heady with empowerment by President Obama and a long string of political and legal victories, the “gay” activist movement and its homosexualist allies are flexing their muscles like never before. Two such allies, Mayors Tom Merino of Boston and Rahm Emanuel of Chicago announced plans to use the powers of their respective offices to prevent Chick Fil A from expanding its business in these two cities. Their blatant disregard for the First Amendment was so egregious that it apparently shocked a number of classic liberals into action.

Salon Magazine’s Glenn Greenwald chided his fellow-travelers on the left in a column titled “Rahm Emanuel‘s Dangerous Free Speech Attack,” remarking “You can’t cheer when political officials punish the expression of views you dislike and then expect to be taken seriously when you wrap yourself in the banner of free speech in order to protest state punishment of views you like and share.” He listed a number of other liberal journalists and groups like the ACLU who had also gone public with their criticism.

Welcome to the brave new world of homo-fascism, Mr. Greenwald, but watch your back. You’re now officially a “homophobe” because you have dared to oppose something that is favorable to the “gay” cause. Sure, you tried to cover your backside by tossing in a couple of cheap shots at the “chicken CEO” but that won’t save you from the Brownshirts. They don’t really care about free speech. They care about power. Indeed, if you had been paying attention over the past few years, you would have noticed that their official position is that “anti-gay bigots” don‘t deserve free speech at all.

Perhaps you are unaware of the “Commentator Accountability Project” of the powerful Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLADD). It was launched earlier this year to hold media outlets (not commentators) accountable for allowing traditional marriage advocates (including this writer) to have a voice in the public debate.

One of its key concepts for twisting the arms of journalists is the slogan “bias is not balance.” How’s that for simply redefining pro-family opinion out of existence in the newsroom? See http://www.glaad.org/cap. I personally recall a leader of the Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association years ago state that allowing pro-family people to comment in news stories related to homosexuality was equivalent to letting the Ku Klux Klan have equal time in stories about race.

But surely, Mr. Greenwald, you are not unaware of the many incidents of “gay” bullying of Christians in recent years, from the celebrity-level character assassination of beauty queen Carrie Prejean (for saying nothing more than that marriage should be between a man and a woman), to the recent bashing of Brad Pitt’s Mom for giving her opinion that homosexuality is wrong in a letter to her local newspaper. Reportedly, death threats have since intimidated her into silence. Last year just outside of Rahm’s Chicago in Arlington Heights, a church school which hosted me for a talk on the biblical view of homosexuality was vandalized when a chunk of pavement was thrown through a window. On it was written the message “Shut Down Lively” and a note was attached threatening future violence. Come to mention it, though, you wouldn’t have known about this hate crime because it got almost no press coverage, even locally. I wonder why?

True, these examples are not precisely equivalent to the case of public officials abusing their offices to punish pro-family speech, but they do share in common an implicit belief that all disapproval of homosexuality must be suppressed. And that the urgency of this goal trumps all other considerations.

Unfortunately for all of us, there will be many more examples of homo-fascism in our future, because the “gay” movement is finally within reach at a national level of the power that it needs to punish its most vocal detractors and intimidate everyone else into silence. This will include “classic liberals” like yourself, Mr. Greenwald, a fact which you will discover the hard way if you dare to continue as a defender of “repellant” pro-family speech. I pray you have the backbone to match your principles. And while you’re at it, being also a civil rights lawyer, perhaps you might weigh in on the ethics of lesbian judicial activist Sophia Hall sitting as presiding judge in the Illinois “gay marriage” case. Rahm Emanuel’s power to unconstitutionally impose his “morality” on the people of that state pales in comparison to hers.

Don’t get me wrong, I genuinely appreciate that some of you classic liberals have jumped to the defense of Dan Cathy’s free speech rights. Forgive me for my skepticism of your motives, however, in light of all the other examples of “gay” bullying that have largely gone unchallenged by you all. One can’t help but wonder if the “danger” you sense is not actually to the First Amendment, but to the “gay” agenda itself, by the prospect of a too-early awakening of the sleeping giant of American public opinion. The frog must not be prompted to jump out of the pot by a too-sudden rise in heat.

So, along with the rest of the pro-family movement I will wait to see whether you and your colleagues continue to stand up to the “gay” bullies, in which case we will know you’re for real, or whether you step aside and let them goosestep on toward their glorious vision of a society purged of Judeo-Christian sexual morality.

 

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The Pink Swastika 5th Edition

Today we are launching The Pink Swastika 5th Edition with a “beta” version of Chapter 1 in PDF format. 

http://www.scottlively.net/tps/tps1.pdf

 This book severely undermines the “victim plunder” strategy of the “gay” movement and as such is bitterly hated by “gay” activists and their allies.  Indeed, when a Riverside County, CA area journalist asked the far-left Southern Poverty Law Center (at my prompting) what it would take for me to be dropped from their list of “hate groups,” they said “Recant The Pink Swastika.” Frankly, I don’t want to be dropped from that list, because, considering who they are, it is a badge of honor to be so designated. But I’m raising this to show how deeply they are bothered by The Pink Swastika.

We won’t recant because The Pink Swastika tells the truth. It is documentary evidence from recent human history that God’s perspective in the Bible about homosexuality and its destructiveness to society is true. 

This 5th Edition emphasizes the strength of our documentation which will be especially irksome to another of our left-wing critics, Warren Throckmorton.  He has devoted a fair amount of effort to try to “debunk” the book.  Most of his arguments are petty and snipe at minor issues around the periphery of the thesis.  Like most of his fellow Pink Swastika haters he cannot address the book point by point since so very much of it is unassailable.  This edition makes that fact all the clearer.   

The Pink Swastika is being published in a more portable form for easy distribution. Feel free to download and pass it along.  It is quite a large file but can be emailed between gmail accounts (which have a 25mb limit) or downloaded on a flash drive.  The easiest way to distribute it is just to send the link.  You have our permission to do all of these things.

This Chapter 1, Version 1.1 is the first in a series of releases that will eventually culminate in the publication of a single finished work.

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Second Attack by SMUG and CCR

This week Sexual Minorities Uganda (SMUG) and the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) filed an Amended Complaint in their U.S. federal lawsuit against me for “Crimes Against Humanity.” It is better written than the original but still boils down to nothing more than an attempt to define my Biblical views against homosexuality as a crime. You can read it here:

Amended Complaint – against Scott Lively as dated 071312

Clearly, this lawsuit is intended not only to silence me as an effective voice of opposition to the “gay” agenda, it is also to intimidate everyone else who would dare to follow my example.

But I am not intimidated, and I intend to use whatever notoriety these bullies create for me to advance the cause of Christ. Such an opportunity was my trip to Springfield MO last week to oppose the anti-discrimination “Gay Fascism” bill now before their city council. Because I got involved there was controversy, which brought public attention to an ordinance the city council wanted to sneak under the radar. Citizens are now activated. We might just kill that bill.

Jesus set the example of courage under persecution, just as He set the rules for family and sexuality that I am striving imperfectly to defend. The entire culture war is about the Biblical World View. Cowards and man-pleasers in the so-called “emergent” church shrink from defending it in the face of homo-fascism. The remnant refuse to yield to the bullies, and are taking our lumps — the first wave of a coming tsunami of persecution of true Christians.

The sheep and goats are being divided, and the Lord is using the issue of homosexuality as the divider — just as it was the “final straw” for Him regarding the Great Flood and at Sodom.

This lawsuit epitomizes the ongoing rise of homo-fascism in America, meaning the authoritarian abuse of power to suppress all opposition to “gay“ ideology. At this stage it is still mostly limited to abuses of the processes available (supposedly) to all Americans in our systems of courts, media, schools and colleges, etc because they don’t yet have full control of the seats of power themselves. Soon, if the trend of growing “gay” power continues, these systems will simply embrace “gay” ideology as the new norm and the current pretense of respect for the equality of opposing views will end.

All of the liberals rhetoric about freedom of speech is already ringing hollow in the face of their support of “anti-discrimination” laws that trump the First Amendment in court rulings, and in the complicity of “mainstream” media and academia in “gay” misrepresentations of every aspect of their lifestyle and agenda.

This lawsuit represents a direct assault on the First Amendment and there is no guarantee in the current climate that they will not win.

But by His grace, win or lose, at any cost, I will continue to speak the truth of God.

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Springfield MO Update

We held our Community Action Meeting against the “Gay Fascism Bill” at the public library Friday evening at 7PM.  It was a standing-room-only crowd of just over 80 people, about 4 or 5 to 1 pro-family.  Several of the pro-“gay” participants filmed my talk, no doubt to glean more evidence of my “hate” against homosexuals in their never-ending but fruitless campaign to silence me through slander and intimidation.  One of these agents was supposedly sent by the most devoted chapter of my fan club, the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization which is the subject of occasional imprecatory prayer by me:  “Lord God bring this evil Anti-Christ organization down by your mighty hand!  And in such a way that is unmistakably You, Lord, and not by the hand or action of any human being or group.  Save the people.  Destroy their organization.” 

I was very encouraged both by the turnout and the enthusiasm of the crowd to take on the challenge of killing the so-called “sexual orientation antidiscrimination ordinance.”  The coverage in the Springfield newspaper was also surprisingly balanced.  http://www.news-leader.com/article/20120714/NEWS06/307140028/Springfield-anti-discrimination-ordinance-gays-Lively

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Report from Springfield MO

I flew in yesterday from Springfield MA to Springfield MO to try to stop the “Gay Fascism Bill” (the so-called “sexual orientation” anti-discrimination ordinance) from being voted in by the City Council here.  Minor success already in that they have now postponed the vote due to public attention to the issue caused by my visit.  I made the front page of the Springfield News Leader at  http://www.news-leader.com/comments/article/20120712/NEWS06/307120055/Scott-Lively-gay-rights-City-Council

Here is my reply to several comments following the story on the newspaper webpage:  “This is Pastor Scott Lively responding to Ms. Smith and others. We are not a ‘hate group’ just because the far-left Southern Poverty Law Center says so (Google them), and I did not advocate nor support the Ugandan bill as written. My book The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party has not been ‘discredited’ by anyone but ‘gay’ activists and their flunkies. It is one of the most thoroughly documented books you will ever read, relying on the most respected and credible mainstream sources of the 1940s thru 1960s. I do not nor have I ever espoused hate or promoted violence toward homosexuals or any other group. Unfortunately, many “gay” activists and their allies are very dishonest about their own agenda and the people who disagree with them. My detailed flyer about the Springfield “Gay Fascism” bill is …[below] and explains the danger of this ordinance. This is NOT San Francisco, the left does not have a majority here. Springfield Christians and other people of traditional values can easily defeat this bill if they simply stand up and oppose it.”

A prior version of this comment disappeared from the site so I had to re-write it.  Hope it stays up this time.  Could have been my mistake (we’ll know if the second version disappears).

Here is a copy of the ordinance: Ordinance Spfld MO

A few key points I will bring up in my presentation at the Public Library tonight:

1.  The “Gay” Political Machine long ago hijacked the Civil Rights Movement and has ever since exploited it for its own selfish ends.

2.  The political instrument called the Human Rights Commission is often nothing more than a Trojan Horse to advance the “gay” agenda past the outer defenses of the local government.  That is its primary purpose in these cases.  It is driven by “gay” activists, hidden behind an ethnic minority  figurehead who is almost always either an in-the-closet homosexual, a pro-“gay” liberal, or a “clueless” stooge who doesn’t know or care that he is being used.  The “gays” bundle their issues together with those of legitimate minorities as a “package deal,” relying on public sympathy for the authentic civil rights concerns of ethnic groups to make their own demands less unpalatable.

3.  Often but not always “gay” and leftist activists in the local media conspire with the Human Rights Commission to create the public perception that legislation is necessary or desireable to counter “a rising tide of bigotry” in the community.  When, inevitably, genunine hate crimes occur, these incidents are highlighted and magnified to suggest (falsely) that existing legal policies and protections are insufficient and that additional legislation is necessary.   

3.  The passage of an “anti–discrimination ordinance based on sexual orientation” represents the capture of the seat of government by “gay” activists, to be thenceforth weilded as a shield against all efforts to curtail the expansion of “gay” power, and as a sword against their opponents, primarily Christians.  It criminalizes “discrimination” against homosexual conduct and lifestyles, granting “gay” activists legal standing to litigate against “discriminators.” 

4.  Lawsuits based on “anti-discrimination” laws then become the primary tool of social engineering.  Key opponents such as people of strong religious faith are deliberately targeted to be made an example of, so that the rest of the public shrinks from speaking against homosexuality out of fear. 

5. The “sexual orientation anti-discrimination ordinance” is the seed the contains the entire tree of the homosexual agenda with all of its poisonous fruit: “gay” marriage, “gay” adoption, taxpayer funding of “gay” projects, etc..  Once it takes root, the local “gay” activist community grows continuously stronger and bolder while their opponents grow continuously weaker and more timid. 

I will make myself available to assist any conservative community in the United States to stop these “Gay Fascism” bills. 

I further urge these communities to pro-actively move the ball in the opposite direction through the use of legislation such as my “Model Family First Ordinance” on Page 181 of my book Redeeming the Rainbow: A Christian Response to the “Gay” Agenda (see sidebar at home page).

 

 

 

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CHRISTIAN RED ALERT

CHRISTIAN RED ALERT  (click here for downloadable PDF)

Image of Gay Militants Bash Back members, who disrupted a Michigan church service by flinging condoms around the sanctuary.  “Gay” Fascism is on the rise in America.

SPRINGFIELD IS NOT SAN FRANCISCO.  STOP THE “GAY FASCISM” BILL

Friends,

The City of Springfield Missouri has announced it’s intention to “consider”** an ordinance to give homosexuals extraordinary new powers to silence and punish Christian landlords and businesses through civil rights lawsuits.

Framed as an “anti-discrimination” measure it is in reality a “Gay Fascism” Bill that will make disapproval of homosexuality illegal in the City of Springfield and grant gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders (GLBTs) legal standing to sue their opponents, primarily Christians.

Starting in the 1980s in cities like San Francisco, homosexuals have forced many U.S. cities and numerous states to adopt similar “Gay Fascism” laws with disastrous effects on Christian landlords and businesses.  Empowered by recent successes, they are now pushing into conservative cities.

As soon as a city criminalizes discrimination against homosexuality, bisexuality and transgenderism through one of these bills, GLBT activists backed by anti-Christian law firms begin targeting people of strong religious faith and traditional values with civil rights lawsuits.

Under Vermont’s anti-discrimination law two lesbians sued the Wildflower Inn in 2011 for refusing to host a lesbian “wedding.”  Now over a year later the case is still in litigation at great personal and emotional cost to the owners of this family friendly resort.

In March of this year a Lexington Kentucky T-Shirt printing company called Hands On Originals was fined $6,600 for refusing to print shirts for a local homosexual festival, despite (more likely because of) stating prominently on its home page that it is a “Christian Outfitter,” reserving a “right of refusal” to decline business in conflict with its beliefs.

E-Harmony, the online Christian dating site was sued in 2008 under one of these “Gay Fascism” laws in New Jersey and “forced” to create a dating site for homosexuals at enormous expense and in a severe compromise of its values.

At Augusta State University in Georgia, Christian student Jennifer Keeton was expelled in 2010 from the graduate counseling program over her disapproval of homosexuality.  In June of 2012 a court ruled that the college’s anti-discrimination policy trumped Keeton’s 1st Amendment religious rights.

These and many other examples of “homo-fascism” are only possible because of anti-discrimination laws based on “sexual orientation” and “gender identity.”

What is worse, much worse, in a strategic political sense is that an “anti-discrimination policy” based on “sexual orientation” is the seed that contains the entire homosexual agenda with all of its poisonous fruit, including “gay” marriage, “gay” adoption, and heavy taxpayer funding of “gay” programs and projects.  Wherever the seed takes root, “gay” power and control just keeps growing until it supplants traditional family values with San Francisco-style sexual anarchy in every social and political sphere.

SPRINGFIELD IS NOT SAN FRANCISCO.  STOP THE “GAY FASCISM” BILL

Last year in the conservative country of Moldova, I led a successful campaign to kill an “anti-discrimination” bill very much like this one.  I believe the same strategy can work in a conservative city like Springfield MO.  The key is to give up trying to appear “nice” and “reasonable” to the media and get aggressive (not violent) in our posture and rhetoric.

If this agenda is as bad as we say it is, AND IT IS, we should start letting our words and actions match the threat!!

It’s time to PUSH BACK.

In Jesus, the Lord of Hosts,

Dr. Scott Lively

PS.  I’ll be in Springfield from July 12 thru 15th for meetings, training seminars and street activism.  Contact me at sdllaw@gmail.com if you would like to join me there.

** “Consider?”  In my experience, the homosexuals never bring forth one of these bills unless that think they already have the votes to pass it.  The public comment period is all for show.  Our side has grown weary of losing all of these battles (and many have given up and gone home long ago) after great effort to work “within the system” by getting people to the city council meetings.

Yes, we need to be at those meetings but these battles are not won in the hearing room, they are won on the street!  We need a public outcry against this bill and put real fear in the hearts of these representatives that they will hurt their political careers by going down this road.

SPRINGFIELD IS NOT SAN FRANCISCO.  STOP THE “GAY FASCISM” BILL

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The Global Threat of Homosexuality

My January 15, 2012 sermon at Resurrection Life Church in Sacramento was banned on YouTube as “hate speech” but Brian Camenker has now posted it on his site and I encourage you to view and recommend it.  I believe it is my best presentation in my 20+ years of speaking on the homosexual issue.

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/scott_lively/speech_011512.html

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My Analysis of the SMUG Lawsuit

About 100 "gay" activists stage a march and protest against me after filing the SMUG lawsuit at Federal District Court in Springfield, MA, accusing me of "Crimes Against Humanity."

On March 23, 2012 I was served with a summons on a civil complaint for Crimes Against Humanity of Persecution, filed in Federal District Court in Springfield, MA on behalf of Sexual Minorities of Uganda (SMUG) by the Center for Constitutional Rights, which receives some of its funding from George Soros.  The plaintiffs have used the Alien Tort Statute, arguing foreigners should be allowed to sue U.S. citizens in America for alleged violations of international law.

What is the alleged violation of international law? Incredibly, the complaint alleges “Crimes Against Humanity of Persecution,” claiming that my speech on homosexuality and pornography resulted in a conspiracy to persecute homosexuals. This is outrageous!

With full knowledge that these are bald-faced lies, SMUG asserts that 1) I masterminded the 2009 Anti-Homosexuality Bill in Uganda, which they call the “Kill the Gays Bill,” 2) inflamed passions against homosexuals in Uganda by characterizing all homosexuals as irredeemable genocidal child molesters, and 3) introduced to Uganda the heretofore unknown strategy of criminalizing public promotion of homosexuality as a means of opposing the rise of a homosexual movement in Uganda.  The proof that these are lies is found in the very same documents they misuse against me.

Their chief “evidence” for a conspiracy is that 1) I allegedly had communications with Ugandan activists and government officials and disseminated copies of my books and other writings in Uganda, 2) that these individuals introduced capital punishment for homosexuals in Uganda by producing and lobbying for the Anti-Homosexuality Bill, and 3) they launched a campaign of public vilification of homosexuals that supposedly would not have occurred had I not inspired and directed them to do so. The suit leaves out my unequivocal statements where I have repeatedly spoken against the capital punishment provision in the proposed legislation. But, neither SMUG nor the Center for Constitutional Rights are interested in the truth.

This alleged conspiracy is simply absurd, implying that my speech and writings about homosexuality overpowered the intelligence and independence of the entire government and population of Uganda, bending them to my supposedly nefarious will.  It is a breathtakingly insulting and racist premise.  It is factually bankrupt as well, as is proven (once again) by the very documents which the plaintiffs have relied upon for their complaint.

Their evidence that this “conspiracy” resulted in Crimes Against Humanity of Persecution is, in total,

1) the 2011 murder of SMUG leader David Kato (whose confessed killer was NOT an enraged “homophobe,” but Kato‘s live-in male prostitute/lover now serving 30 years in prison for the crime, an important fact they intentionally leave out),

2) the 2012 disruption of a two week conference (on its final day) by police who called the 30 or so of them “terrorists,” none of whom were arrested or detained,

3) the 2008 arrest and brief detention of three activists protesting an AIDS conference against whom no charges were filed,

4) the 2005 arrest of a transsexual who was stripped and fondled by police officers (but who subsequently won a tort suit against the police in a Ugandan court),

5)  an alleged nationwide government campaign to “crack down” on homosexual advocacy, resulting in the temporary suspension of one radio station manager by the Ugandan Broadcasting Council (for violation of “minimum broadcast standards” based on the reportedly foul language of a lesbian guest of a talk show),

6) the “outing” of numerous allegedly homosexual activists by various Ugandan individuals and newspapers (similar to what “gay“ and leftist media and activists do to their enemies here in the US), and

7) the self-claimed “flight” from Uganda of the SMUG Executive Director and spokesperson Robert Mugisha, now presumably comfortably remunerated by one or more Soros-funded NGOs.

This list of so-called “Crimes Against Humanity” is so weak that it smacks of mockery of the very real suffering that true victims of such crimes now face around the world.

SMUG is attempting to leverage a small catalogue of misrepresented and out-of-context comments by me, the independent actions of a few Ugandan leaders regarding their own national public policy, and a tiny handful of relatively minor incidents of “persecution,” into Crimes Against Humanity, the most serious category of crimes in the world.

Had SMUG filed this action in Uganda under Ugandan law, there would be no case. Had SMUG filed this action in the United States alleging violation of U.S. law, there would be no case. Realizing this problem, SMUG has tried to concoct an alleged violation of international law, which is absurd. SMUG would pervert our US Federal Courts into the modern equivalent of a Nuremburg Nazi War Trial.

Why would SMUG and the Center for Constitutional Rights go to such lengths in their attempt to punish one minor American pastor?  They want to silence me and anyone who speaks about the Bible or morality which does not agree with their agenda. Mindful of James 4:6, I pray for continued grace to counter these SMUG deceivers with humility and resolve.

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Motion to Dismiss SMUG Lawsuit

Liberty Counsel, my attorneys in the SMUG lawsuit attempting to find me liable for “Crimes Against Humanity” for preaching against homosexuality in Uganda  have filed the following motion to dismiss the case.

Wow.  It still seems surreal to relate that the filing of this lawsuit is an accomplished fact and not merely the fantasy ravings of some “gay” blogger.  But it is a fact, and here is the link to their Complaint, one of sloppiest, most poorly reasoned briefs I have ever read, filled with embarassing typographical errors and egregious ommissions of fact designed to mislead the court.

http://www.ccrjustice.org/LGBTUganda/LGBTuganda_filing.pdf

In contrast, look at the masterful work of my team at Liberty Counsel!  What a great blessing it is to have them defending me.  If nothing else, read the introduction to the motion.

Memo – Support Motion to Dismiss as filed 062212

To understand these two documents in their right relationship, the SMUG Complaint is like a leaky rowboat sent out to attack.  The Liberty Counsel Motion to Dismiss is like a Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier coming to the defense.

If there is genuine respect for law in this court, the SMUG lawsuit is now as good as dead.

 

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Hiking the Appalachian Trail

I’ve just returned from a 10 day hike on a section of the Appalachian Trail.  Last year I did 21 days (210 miles) of a planned 40 days, from Harpers Ferry, WV to Albany PA.  I was forced to stop early with a stress fracture in my foot.  This year I picked up where I left off and hiked 105 miles to High Point State Park, NJ.  It was refreshing and rejuvenating.

 

 

 

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Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God

This is a video of my May 3rd performance of Jonathan Edward’s 1741 “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.”  I was one of numerous speakers at the National Day of Prayer gathering in Pittsfield, MA.  The original sermon is well over an hour in length, but I was forced to edit my version to 18 minutes to fit within my allotted time. 

http://www.scottlively.net/je/index.html

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The Death Penalty in Uganda

I published the following essay on June 2, 2009 at DefendtheFamily.com in response to false suggestions in the media that I had advocated for the death penalty to be included in Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill.  I will offer additional posts on this topic in future, but it is fitting to begin with this one since it was my first public comment on the matter.  It’s claims remain true to this day, notwitstanding the global propaganda campaign that implies without evidence that many homosexuals have been murdered/executed there.  

The Death Penalty in Uganda

by Scott Lively, J.D., Th.D.
President, Defend the Family International
June 2, 2009
By official count 22 young men were executed under Uganda’s law on homosexuality. The law in question required that all men and boys in Uganda be willing to submit to the homosexual seduction of it’s ruler, King Mwanga. When Ugandans began to convert to Christianity in the 1800s, a group of Catholics, led by Charles Lwanga, refused to allow themselves to be sodomized by the King. Enraged, King Mwanga had them torurously bound, marched 37 miles and then roasted alive in a fire pit. The date of their execution was June 3rd, 1886, and is today a national holiday commemorating Uganda’s rejection of homosexuality and commitment to Christian values.

It should be no surprise, therefore, that modern Ugandans are very unhappy that homosexual political activists from Europe and the United States are working aggressively to re-homosexualize their nation. Ugandan citizens report a growing number of foreign homosexual men coming to their country to turn desperately poor young men from the slums into their personal houseboys, and that some girls in public schools have being paid to recruit others into lesbianism. Foreign interests have exerted intense pressure on Uganda’s government to compromise its laws regarding sexual morality, often using their control over foreign aid funding for leverage.

Over the past decade a growing pro-family movement has begun to insist that Parliament do something about this problem. This year, Parliament answered the call. Unfortunately, the bill they are now debating represents a serious overcorrection, including, for example, the death penalty for certain forms of “aggravated homosexuality” (such as knowingly spreading AIDS).

As a Christian attorney and international human rights advocate who has worked closely with Uganda’s pro-family movement, I have a special interest in this issue. In my view, homosexuality (indeed all sex outside of marriage) should be actively discouraged by society — but only as aggressively as necessary to prevent the mainstreaming of alternative sexual lifestyles, and with concern for the preservation of the liberties of those who desire to keep their personal lifestyles private. Marriage-based culture served humanity very favorably during the centuries when homosexuality was disapproved but tolerated as a sub-culture in America, England and elsewhere. It has obviously not fared well in the decades since the so-called sexual revolution kicked open Pandora’s Box and unleashed both rampant heterosexual promiscuity and “Gay Pride“ on the world.

In March of this year I had the privilege of addressing members of the Ugandan parliament in their national assembly hall when the anti-homosexuality law was just being considered. I urged them to pattern their bill on some American laws regarding alcoholism and drug abuse. I cited my own pre-Christian experience being arrested for drunk driving. I was given and chose the option of therapy which turned out to be one of the best decisions of my life. I also cited the policy in some U.S. jurisdictions regarding marijuana. Criminalization of the drug prevents its users from promoting it, and discourages non-users from starting, even while the law itself is very lightly enforced, if at all. Additionally, I urged them to actively promote the marriage model in their schools as a form of inoculation to the anti-family messages flooding their country through Western media.

All of my suggestions were ignored (despite which fact I am being blamed for the proposed law as written by certain major media outlets and the “gay” blogosphere.) Nevertheless, I commend the courage of the Ugandan people. During the past decade or so, Uganda has been one of the few countries of the world that has firmly resisted the enormous power and relentless pressure of the international “gay” lobby, while other developing nations such as South Africa and Brazil have been systematically homosexualized. This is one of the reasons that Uganda’s AIDS rate went from the highest to the lowest in Africa during this same time period.

Let me be absolutely clear. I do not support the proposed anti-homosexuality law as written. It does not emphasize rehabilitation over punishment and the punishment that it calls for is unacceptably harsh. However, if the offending sections were sufficiently modified, the proposed law would represent an encouraging step in the right direction. As one of the first laws of this century to recognize that the destructiveness of the “gay” agenda warrants opposition by government, it would deserve support from Christian believers and other advocates of marriage-based culture around the world.

In the mean time, despite all of the hysteria in the liberal media, it is important to remember that there is no death penalty for homosexuals in Uganda, only a bill under debate that will hopefully be modified before passage. The only Ugandans who have been executed for their beliefs and actions about homosexuality have been Christians.

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“Truth Be Damned”

Wayne Besen of the anti-family blog Truth Be Damned (http://www.truthwinsout.org/blog/2012/04/24689/) has lost his legal battle against Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays.

PFOX Wins Lawsuit Against Anti-Ex-Gay Extremist
Wayne Besen Admits to Self-Aggrandizement

Washington, D.C. – A federal judge has tossed out a lawsuit filed by homosexual activist Wayne Besen against Greg Quinlan and Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays & Gays (PFOX).  Besen claimed that Quinlan, a former homosexual, had defamed him when Quinlan said that Besen had been fired from the Human Rights Campaign and had uttered hateful rhetoric against Quinlan because he disagreed with Quinlan’s ex-gay sexual orientation.  (Besen once told Quinlan in a private conversation that someone should run him over with a bus or inject him with AIDS.)
Ironically, in his court filings, Besen admitted that while he may be known among some gay rights activists circles, “most individuals on the street in the metropolitan Washington D.C. area if asked if they had ever heard of [Besen] would respond with a resounding “No.”  Besen likened his public persona to “notoriety in small circles,” admitted to his “own promotional self-aggrandizement,” indicated that the books he has written were of “likely limited circulation,” and that he “might like to view [himself] as more well known than is actually the case.”
Besen filed his lawsuit against Quinlan even though state law grants Quinlan and other individuals immunity from civil lawsuit damages when they act without pay as an officer or director of a tax-exempt organization like PFOX.  No one at PFOX is paid a salary.
Attorney Matt Barber, a PFOX board member, said “Filing frivolous lawsuits and abusing our judicial system seems to be a new tactic of radical homosexual activist pressure groups like Besen’s. They are desperate to silence the message of hope that there is freedom from unwanted same-sex attractions.  It won’t work and, in the end, they only humiliate themselves and hurt what is already a lost cause.  The science continues to mount against the false notion that people are ‘born gay.'”
Besen has a history of bullying members of the ex-gay community.  Wayne Besen and his Truth Wins Out practice hatemongering, bigotry and intolerance against anyone who supports a person’s right of self-determination and affirms an individual’s right to change from gay to straight.  (See http://pfox.org/Wacky-Wayne-Besen.html).
If you have been a victim of Besen’s bullying or interference, regardless of whether you are ex-gay, everstraight, or gay, please send his emails, videos, voice mail, your personal account of what happened, or anything you would like to report to WackyWayne666@hotmail.com – because truth does win out!
Read PFOX’s earlier press release on the lawsuit at http://pfox.org/PFOX-Responds-Gay-Hate-Blogger-Demands.html
 ###Parents and Friends  of Ex-Gays & Gays is the nation’s leading advocacy organization for the ex-gay community, their families, and individuals with unwanted same-sex attractions.

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National Day of Prayer 2012

After the radio show we (a van load of friends who took me to the station and listened to the show out in the van) all drove to Pittsfield where about a hundred brave souls gathered in the cold and light drizzle for the National Day of Prayer.  There were several great speakers and historical re-enactors.  I performed an 18 minute version of Jonathan Edward’s “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” in costume.  Hopefully a video of that will soon be available to add as a link in this post.

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Tag Team Match in Northampton

Did a radio show yesterday with Bill Newman on WHMP in Northampton, MA.  Bill is an ACLU lawyer who went instantly on the attack as if I were on the witness stand in one of his cases.  But I’m also a lawyer and not easily bullied — even when Bill and his liberal co-host added two strongly pro-“gay” clergymen to the mix: the “Reverend and the Rabbi” (who apparently have a regular segment in the final quarter hour of the show).  I had fun, in any case.

But you can judge for yourself who came off better in the exchange.  Listen to the podcast at http://whmp.com/pages/8875192.php  The date of the show was 5 3 12

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“Gay Christians?”

Thank you Clyde Warren for your thoughtful reply to my post Redeeming the Rainbow in which you analogized my opposition to homosexuality to the defense of slavery and subjugation of women by some Christians in the past.

However, I contend that your logic is upside-down.  It is the advocates of homosexuality, not the opponents of it, who are akin to those who once offered pro-slavery and anti-women’s sufferage arguments.  In each of these three cases, confused Christians have offered non-biblical arguments to legitimize socially and spiritually destructive policies.

Indeed, the arguments in favor of slavery and second-class status for women, while clearly NOT Christian (Gal 3:28), are nevertheless much stronger arguments than that for legitimizing homosexuality.  Forms of slavery and indentured servitude were part of the economic system of the Old Testament and early New Testament cultures.  Likewise, the Bible addresses some important distinctions between men and women and their roles.  In both cases these biblical references, taken out of context, provide at least some basis upon which to make an argument, however faulty.

In stark contrast to these, there is not a single pro-homosexual statement, story or context in all of Scripture.  “Gay Theology,” which I have studied at length, is total fabrication and a modern heresy.

The clear, unambiguous biblical position on homosexuality is complete and consistent condemnation in both the Old and New Testaments.  It’s condemnation pre-dates the Mosaic law, and was specifically reaffirmed after Christ’s fulfilment of the law by His Apostles.  In fact, homosexuality is singled out as the outer-extreme of sin: the only form of rebellion that drew down fire and brimstone from heaven (the example of wrath for all generations – Jude 1: 7), and the only sin chosen to exemplify the “reprobate mind,” the prerequisite of apostasy (Romans 1).

Are there “gay Christians?”  I believe there are, just as there were Christian slave-holders and Christian misogynists (and Christians today who lie, cheat and steal).  But I believe these are the people described in 1 Cor 3:11-15 who make it into heaven “as if through the fire,” without reward or commendation because they used their Christian liberty to practice and promote sin, to the extreme detriment of the cause of Christ. 

There is a vast difference between “being saved” and being sanctified.  The former comes by faith in Christ alone.  The latter comes by working, with the help of the Holy Spirit, to become like Christ: suppressing the flesh, not indulging it; conforming to the teachings of the Bible, not editing and interpreting it to suit yourself; hungering and thirsting after righteousness, not suppressing the truth in rebelliousness;  “hating even the garment polluted by the flesh,” in humility, not marching through the streets boasting of pride in the practice of sodomy.

Christians are instructed to have no fellowship with such people, believers though they may be in the most nominal sense, but who remain unrepentant about their sin.  With Paul we are to shun every such person from our churches “so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord” (1 Cor 5:4-5).  The Bible commands church leaders to exercise “tough love” toward these wayward members for their own good and so that weaker believers and babes in Christ will not be corrupted by their  bad example.

On the other hand, those who confess that their sin is sin and work to overcome it (however imperfectly) deserve our every kindness and help (1 Peter 4). 

This is the biblical view, my friend, leading unto life and health.  What you are offering is Christian-flavored secular humanism and it leads unto death.

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Redeeming the Rainbow

Today I gave a three hour seminar in Oklahoma City based on my 2009 textbook Redeeming the Rainbow: A Christian Response to the “Gay” Agenda.  This is the book I wrote to equip Christians to understand and effectively respond to the homosexual agenda.  It may be downloaded in PDF form without charge at http://www.defendthefamily.com/rtr/.  The file is small enough to send as an e-mail attachment and I encourage people to send it to all of their pro-family friends.

This is the book I was finalizing during my 2009 Uganda conference (and the basis of my lectures there) which subsequently brought the wrath of the radical left upon me and has led to the outrageous SMUG lawsuit filed against me (for “Crimes Against Humanity” no less) last month in federal court in Springfield, MA where I now live.  I will address that lawsuit in a separate post at a later date.

My seminar today was attended by none other than Wayne Besen of Truth Will Out, a prominent “gay” blogger.  He was civil and polite for the most part, but visibly quite agitated and finally left the seminar after being criticized by another man for interrupting me.  There were two women in the audience as well whom I suspect, based upon their questions, were lesbians. 

I do not vary my presentations based on the presence of opponents.  I seek always to teach forthrightly what I know and believe to whomever wants to listen.  

Redeeming the Rainbow is the only book of its kind, filled with straightforward explanations of the the history, methods, strategies and goals of the homosexual movement, and practical, user-friendly guidelines on how to respond to it.  If every Christian in America were to read this book it would, I believe, dramatically change the national debate in our favor.   

 

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